Re: jan check out tests area here-sodium levels off

2007-01-31 21:09:23

Alternative names: adrenal crisis; Addisonian crisis; acute adrenal
insufficiency
Definition: An abrupt, life-threatening state caused by insufficient
cortisol, a hormone produced and released by the adrenal gland.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors: The two adrenal glands are
located on top of the kidneys. They consist of the outer portion,
called the cortex, and the inner portion, called the medulla. The
cortex produces three types of hormones, which are called
corticosteroids. The androgens and estrogens affect sexual
development and reproduction. The glucocorticoids maintain glucose
regulation, suppress the immune response, and provide for the
response to stress (cortisol). The mineralocorticoids regulate sodium
and potassium balance. These hormones are essential for life. Acute
adrenal crisis is an emergency caused by decreased cortisol. The
crisis may occur in a person with Addison's disease, or as the first
sign of adrenal insufficiency. More uncommonly, it may be caused by a
pituitary gland disorder. It may also be caused by sudden withdrawal
of corticosteroids, removal or injury of the adrenal glands, or
destruction of the pituitary gland. Risk factors are stress, trauma,
surgery, or infection in a person with Addison's disease, or injury
or trauma to the adrenal glands or the pituitary gland. The incidence
is 4 out of 100,000 people.
Prevention: People who have Addison's disease should be taught to
recognize signs of potential stress that may precipitate an acute
adrenal crisis (cause it to occur suddenly and unexpectedly). Most
people with Addison's disease are taught to give themselves an
emergency injection of hydrocortisone in times of stress. It is
important for the individual with Addison's disease to always carry a
medical identification card that states the type of medication and
the proper dose needed in case of an emergency. Never omit
medication. If unable to retain medication due to vomiting, notify
the health care provider.
Symptoms: headache
profound weakness
fatigue
slow, sluggish, lethargic movement
nausea
vomiting
low blood pressure
dehydration
high fever
chills shaking
confusion or coma
darkening of the skin
rapid heart rate
joint pain
abdominal pain
unintentional weight loss
rapid respiratory rate
unusual and excessive sweating on face and/or palms
skin rash or lesion may be present
flank pain
appetite, loss
Signs and tests: An ACTH (cortrosyn) stimulation test shows low
cortisol.
The cortisol level is low.
The fasting blood sugar may be low.
The serum potassium is elevated.
The serum sodium is decreased.
This disease may also alter the results of the following
tests: sodium, urine
17-hydroxycorticosteroids
Treatment: In adrenal crisis, an intravenous or intramuscular
injection of hydrocortisone (an injectable corticosteroid) must be
given immediately. Supportive treatment of low blood pressure is
usually necessary. Hospitalization is required for adequate treatment
and monitoring. Low blood pressure may be treated with intravenous
fluids. If infection is the cause of the crisis, antibiotic therapy
is indicated.
Expectations (prognosis): Death may occur due to overwhelming shock
if early treatment is not provided.
Complications:
shock
coma
seizures
For more personal experiences, see the message boards

irrtable bowels/bladder problems

2007-01-31 18:58:23

Anyone know if IBS or bladder problems are related to hypoT? I've had
irritable bowels for the past 3-4 years I'd say. This morning it got
really bad, felt like I had a knife in my bladder area.

Re: [hypothyroidism] tina- link to this lady's story

2007-01-31 06:09:38

tina, this is a great place for TONS of info!!!Thanks!
Sheila

Chuck

2007-01-31 01:31:47

I agree, Chuck, that we can't expect one
recommendation to be effective for everyone. Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] Chriss

2007-01-30 19:26:51

Hello, Sorry, Chriss, I forgot you were the one
actually asking about whether you should take your
weight in synthroid. See my post I just posted to
Chuck/Jan with that subject.
I guess it will depend on your doctor. But Dr. Richard
Shames would probably put you on 125 mgs. of Synthroid
if you wanted to try Synthroid.
I use Levoxyl. It is a synthetic thyroxine like
Synthroid. It did help me some, but since I was still
having a lot of symptoms despite my labs being
"great," I asked my endo to add Cytomel (T3). When my
endo started me on T3, he decreased my T4.
I have no idea what scary studies your doc might be
talking about. A lot of people greatly benefit by
adding T3. I know I certainly have; it's made a big
difference for me. I still have problems with brain
fog/memory, brittle nails, dry skin, but overall, I
feel tons better with the T4/T3 combo as opposed to
just the T4. I may ask my doc if I can try Armour to
see if it makes me feel even better.
Here's a link to an article from the New England
Journal of Medicine in favor of T3
http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/t3drugsnejm.htm
There was a recent study done that said some negative
things about T3, (as far as how beneficial it might
be) but nothing scary. I've never read anything scary
about it. I know if you have heart problems you
probably won't be able to take it. Anyway, here's the
link to that article.
http://thyroid.about.com/b/a/031668.htm
Many top doctors are not taking a lot of stock in the
results. You can read what a lot of the doc are saying
about it by going to this link.
http://thyroid.about.com/b/archives.htm
This disease can be very frustrating and scary. Dr.
Shames said something in "Thyroid Power" that I really
related to.
"Low thyroid conditions do not cause people to die.
Instead they cause people to feel half-dead, or
sometimes to wish they were dead." Not everyone
experiences symptoms to this severity, but I really
wondered if I was dying before they finally figured
out what was wrong with me. I was having such severe
chest pains you wouldn't believe...and that was just
one symptom. As soon as I started on hormones, the
chest pains went away.
Anyway, take care Chriss, and good luck. Keep in touch
and know you're not alone with this stuff!!! Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] new here.

2007-01-30 14:55:23

does she mean like NEJM articles? I take Armour which has T3, T4, T2, T1,
T0, and I guess there might be T6 &7 too. You mnight want to do some
research and find a more up to date doc.
http://www.geocities.com/thyroide
Gracia
is anyone using T3 in addition? I have asked my Prac about

Re: [hypothyroidism] THANK YOU

2007-01-30 03:35:16

Carol, there are topdoc lists at http://www,thyroid.about.com Still you
have to do some research and questioning. Endos aren't necessarily better
(I wouldn't go to one personally).
Gracia in ME

chuck/jan - thyroid dosages related to weight-thyroxine

2007-01-30 03:14:20

Hello,
I'm sure different doctors have different opinions on
thyroid dosages. I'm sure some docs don't dose based
on weight, but I know of at least one doc who does.
I was just reading "Thyroid Power" this morning by Dr.
Richard Shames & Karilee Shames. they say,
"Most people are initially prescribed T4. You can
begin with a dose roughly equivalent to one microgram
per pound of body weight, if you're not a very heavy
person. In other words, a 125-pound person might be
prescribed 125 micrograms of thyroxine as a starting
dose..."
"Generally it's a good idea to start slowly. A person
who is prescribed 125 mcgs. of thyroxine should start
gradually, perhaps at 25 mcgs, for the first week,
then 50 mcgs. for the next week, then 75, then 100,
and then 125 over the ensuing weeks. The body needs
time to adjust to higher levels of this powerful
hormone."
"People who weigh more than 125 pounds might start
their titration in a similar fashion, but their target
dose may need to be a bit higher. For some reason, 150
mcgs. is the highest dosage many doctors feel
comfortable prescribing. We think, however, that such
a dose may not allow you to achieve the comfort zone
for your particular body. You might need to push for
more, depending on your basal temperatures and test
results, but especially depending upon your clinical
responses to the medicine. Many people who could do
well on thyroxine do not find it very useful in
relieving their symptoms, simply because they are not
taking enough of it."
I'm not even half-way through this book, and it's been
very interesting...helping me put some pieces
together.
Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] Hi Ali

2007-01-29 20:14:19

Hi Ali! Nice to hear from you again!!!
How wonderful that you're feeling so much better!!!
That's so great to hear!!!
Which test did you take for adrenal fatigue? Someone
in my hypo group was saying she took the blood test
and it came back negative; however, when she took the
24 hour urine, it came back positive.
I'm doing pretty good. I had been having problems with
abnormal bleeding, but knock on wood, since I went on
vacation the first of Sept., I am back to normal.
I go for another ultrasound this morning to see if the
cyst on my overy & the fibroid tumor on my uterus have
decreased in size. I have a feeling they have.
Well, take care!!! So glad to hear your voice again!!
Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] Re jan-yellow hands

2007-01-29 13:29:17

It'll be interesting, Jan, to see if the craving goes
away since I started the multi. sheila

iodine--can it be getting in my lungs?

2007-01-29 12:36:06

Thanks for the info, Chuck.
At this point I'm researching, trying to determine how
much, if any, of the iodine that's in the air at work
could be affecting my thyroid. If it can be absorbed
via the skin and inhaled, I wonder if all those snow
crab fumes are loaded with iodine. I've been inhaling
like mega-doses of the stuff every time I open the
steamer (for 7 years now).
I did read that frying and grilling reduces the iodine
content by about 24%...broiling a little less, I
believe.
I'm supposed to be careful about my iodine
consumption; I had no idea it MIGHT be entering my
body at work via my skin and lungs.
The only thing I can find on the web so far about
iodine excess being an occupational hazard is dealing
with people who work in chemical factories. I will
keep looking to see if I can find out if working with
seafood can increase iodine consumption.
take care, Sheila

Re: low carb diets

2007-01-29 00:26:27

Cool link, Karen. Thanks :)
Jan

Re: [hypothyroidism] this is cute

2007-01-28 22:16:38

thanks karen!!! loved it! Sheila

Re: new here.

2007-01-28 09:52:48

I use T3 in addition, yes. I was on 50mcg T4, 25mcg T3 and was doing
great, then T3 went off the market. I switched to 100mcg T4, then
125mcg T4, and still feeling terrible, losing my hair, etc.
Now my new, fabulous doctor has me on 75mcg T4, 25mcg T3. I am still
waiting for my imported T3 to arrive, but I am sure that I will do
better on it, as I used to.
T3 is very safe if you are young and without heart problems. I am
also a similar weight as you - well, I used to be until I went
without T3 and turned into a water balloon. Anyway, I was 119lb and
that was a good dosage for me.
Jan

Re:Jan-yellow hands

2007-01-28 09:49:02

Yep, that could be it - your body needs it. Sweet potatoes are also
full of A, and so are mangoes, and until I started a multi with 200%
of the A, they were my two favorite foods. I dreamed of sweet
potatoes. And that was when I was perfectly balanced... I think we
are always gonna need more than the RDA of A, being hypo.
When I started the Centrum Silver, the craving was gone.
Jan

Re: Sheila - allergies and also info on vitamins

2007-01-28 05:04:07

Is it fluorescent yellow? If so, it is the B. Otherwise, if it is a
carrot-y yellow, it is the A.
Jan

low carb diets

2007-01-27 20:46:12

this site goes through most of them out there.
http://www.lowcarbcafe.com/Diet%20Plans.htm

RE: [hypothyroidism] Introduction ... Hypothyroid

2007-01-27 12:27:11

Adrenals.
Val in Boulder, CO

RE: [hypothyroidism] ringing of the ear linked to adrenal problems

2007-01-27 10:58:49

Who's bio is this?
Val in Boulder, CO

brain fog, and tiredness

2007-01-26 21:49:48

Hi everyone. new to group, and i was wondering if anyone has had any
brain fog symptoms such as feeling of can't concentrate of course
fogginess in head, and some forgetfullness is this normal I felt this
way on 0.75 for the past 6 or 7 months, and was just lowered 2 weeks
ago to 0.50 blood results come back normal what's the deal?? help!!I
also have anxiety attacks i've never felt so bad in all my life i
just want to feel "normal" again. thanks

ringing in the ears

2007-01-26 17:35:37

Ringing in the ears is often either a zinc or potassium deficiency.
Try supplementing with either Zinc or Combination Potassium for a
long term fix. He may find immediate relief with Ginkgo & Hawthorn
(usually in 10 to 20 days).
Nicole Bandes, 2/20/03
http://www.naturallyherbs.com/ask_arch_2003.shtml
This is the first time I have read this explanation--and guess what
everyone--we all know zinc dificiency is part of a adrenal problem
from the past link and info. tina

link to this lady's story

2007-01-26 09:13:49

http://www.cushings-help.com/denise2.htm

ringing of the ear linked to adrenal problems

2007-01-26 06:50:27

This bio was last updated on Tuesday February 11, 2003
Hi All, Well, I hope this helps someone. No health issues or
excessive weight until I reached 38 years old except for 10kg weight
gain after 2nd child.
I have 2 children and had no major issues with either pregnancy. I
was 85kgs at 9 months pregnant with 2nd child (1986), and was induced
due to high blood pressure. I reduced to 70kgs by 1992. Played tennis
2-3 times a week, worked, studied, took care of small children and
led a fairly active life.
In November 1994, I had an appendectomy. No complications.
The following year, 1995, I kept having periodic flu like symptoms
throughout 1995 putting me in bed 4-5 days each month. No head cold
of anything just aches and pains throughout my body. Weight was 70kgs.
From January 1996, I started to get sick all the time. I'm barely
able to get out of bed, with extreme fatigue, and weight gain from
70kgs to 96kgs in a 6 months period. Muscle aches & pains, bones
creaked, flushed red face with skin coarse and dry/rashes, periods
were move heavy and become more frequent, Sleep apnea (so bad,
husband moved to another room, visits occasionally hahaha),
difficulty concentrating, forgetful/foggy, hair thinning coarse and
dry, loss of pubic and underarm hair.
I had appointments with doctors on a regular basis. Kept saying I was
sick. I was told there was nothing wrong with me, to change my diet
and lose weight.
Still symptomatic 2 years later. Still making appointments with
doctors and being told to change diet and lose weight. Weight
increases from 96kgs to 102kgs from June 1996 to June 1998.
In June 1998 I went for antibiotics for `ulcerated cervix'. I am
still symptomatic. Blood pressure is 185/110. I was diagnosed
hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's autoimmune thyroid disease) and
prescribed Thyroxin (T4 medication).
Visit 1st endocrinologist September 1998 and continue seeing until
2000. Endocrinologist said there was nothing wrong with my thyroid
and that I was properly medicated.
I am still symptomatic and seeing same GP from July 1998 through to
Feb 2002 interspersed with visits to other GP's. I was sent for tests
to determine abdominal pain I suffer from periodically. Pain puts me
in bed for 3-4 days a month usually around ovulation. The rest of the
month isn't much better due to fatigue, aches and pains.
Colonoscopy, ultrasounds, CT scans done from March 2000 through to
February 2002.
Hospital visit Christmas morning 2000. Hands & feet swelled. So
painful I could barely walk, and a red itchy rash over entire body.
Current weight is 102kgs. No treatment or diagnosis given.
During 2001 I am still symptomatic and now have back pain. Visit
regular GP as well as other GPs. Thyroid meds increased. Suffer again
from headaches and pain in back of head as well as continuing
symptoms.
In August 2001 5mm CT abdominal scan shows 2cm tumour on left adrenal
gland. GP says it's an incidentalnoma. Visit GP again in November
2001 distressed, not well. I'm sick of being sick.
On 24th December 2001, GP's office rings for me to see doctor. GP
prescribes blood pressure medication (first time offered) and refers
me to adrenal specialist. Start having chest pains.
Appointment with 2nd endocrinologist, January 23, 2002. He is testing
for Cushing's. Not happy with this doctor and don't return.
February 2002, 3mm CT abdominal scan shows 2.5cm tumour on left
adrenal gland and right adrenal gland described as hypoplastic.
Symptoms. Chest pains, weight 103kgs, high blood pressure 150/100,
abdominal pain/bloating, muscle aches & pains, bones ache, backache
(spine and lower back), extreme fatigue, flushed red face, irregular
periods/early/late/heavy, sleep apnoea, difficulty concentrating,
forgetful/foggy, hair coarse and dry, skin coarse and dry/rashes,
eyes sensitive/sore/blurred, ears loss of hearing/earache,
depression.
Provide 1st endo with all results completed (got copies from
pathologist) and 1st endo orders more tests. Complete tests and I ask
1st endo about natural thyroid extract (NTE). 1st endo said I did not
need NTE for thyroid condition as there was nothing wrong with my
thyroid. It was properly medicated with T4 meds. There was also
nothing wrong with my adrenals. If I still had symptoms it had
nothing to do with my endocrine system and he told me to go back to
my GP and get a referral to a gastroentologist for the continual
anaemia and a rheumatologist for the fibromyalgia. He said to go and
have an ultrasound on my heart to see how much damage had been
done???? And of course, lose weight. He said I had diabetes and
prescribed medication. I had told him I was prescribed a medication
for high blood pressure but this had caused chest pains. 1st endo did
not prescribe another med for high blood pressure.
I am still symptomatic. Chest pain, ringing in the ear, mouth ulcers,
mood swings, inability to cope with stress, backache, don't heal very
well, nausea, head pain (back of head), neck pain (left side),
headaches, swelling hands and feet, high blood pressure, anaemic,
weight 103kgs. Not to leave out the fatigue, muscle aches and pains,
rib and joint pain.
Make an appointment with another local GP and request referral to
gastroentologist and rheumatologist. GP does not give me referral but
sends me for an endoscopy. Endoscopy shows minimal reflux. I suffered
for a short period with choking sensation. No answer to constant
anaemia or anything else for that matter.
In June 2002 I see new GP (specialist GP, hard to get into and see),
who prescribes NTE. He says I do not have diabetes (borderline) and
to stop medication. He places me on BP meds. I'm feeling much better
with NTE. Eliminates depression, extreme fatigue (except when
stressed), hair returning to normal but still have scaly scalp, skin
improving though I still get rashes, mood improved, fibromyalgia
mostly gone.
In September 2002 I get sick again. BP meds have not lowering blood
pressure.
After starting NTE, I was well for 6 weeks. Then I got sick again for
6 weeks. Relatively well at moment other than bone pain. My remaining
symptoms are: I have painful knees and have started to get pain in
top of feet and front of ankle. Palms of hands and soles of feet feel
swollen, cluster headaches and other numerous pains randomly in bones
ie., elbows, wrists. If I have the slightest stress (good, bad,
whatever), I become totally symptomatic with all previous symptoms
returning including extreme fatigue and fibromyalgia. I have reduced
my work hours to part time.
23 September 2002, I have appointment with 4th endocrinologist.
October 2002, I suppressed for the dex suppression test though at
www.cushings-help.com I have learnt it is not a good test to
determine cyclic Cushing's as it has given a lot of false/negative
results and later, people have been diagnosed with Cushing's. False
negatives can be due to low cortisol binding globulin (CBG) and slow
metabolism. My CT scan showed 2 tablets in my intestine and stomach.
I had read obese people tend to have high cortisol and high CBG
and `cushing's' people have normal cortisol and low CBG. This would
only make sense for adrenal tumour where healthy gland shrunk.
4th November, appointment with 4th endo. Endocrinologist gave
referral to surgeon for removal of left adrenal gland. Surgery
scheduled for 27th November 2002.
Extract from Victorian government (Australia) health website
Tumour of the adrenal gland.
This form of Cushing's syndrome is also known as Cushing's disease. A
tumour on one of the adrenal glands triggers the production of high
cortisol levels. The tumours are usually non-cancerous. The pituitary
responds by dropping its level of ACTH hormone, which in turn causes
the healthy adrenal gland to shrink.

adreanl page at emdicine.com

2007-01-25 22:55:35

http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic47.htm
go to bottom of page- this site has skin pictures of the hands---
double check here if you guys have this condition???? tina

iodine--can it be getting in my lungs?

2007-01-25 16:42:54

Sheila,

Technically, an allergic reaction must involve contact with a protein,
an allergen. This does not mean that iodine will not aggravate an on
going allergic reaction or cause some other kind of adverse reaction,
including some forms of asthma. It just means that iodine per se will
not by itself trigger a true "allergy." If your allergist has a test for
it, it is for "sensitivity" not "allergy." As triggers for true
allergies go, sea food, particularly shell fish, is a very likely culprit.
Iodine absorbed from both animal or plant matter and from other sources
ends up in the same form, a singly charged, negative ion. It just takes
a little longer to detach it in some forms, but the effect, for good or
ill, will be the same.
Chuck

link for you

2007-01-25 15:58:37

http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/qa.php

Hi Sheila - I'm much better thanks

2007-01-25 08:57:32

Hi Sheila,
Thanks for the note asking how things are going. I
know I haven't been on here in a while but to be
honest sometimes the sheer volume of posts this groups
gets can sometimes be a little ovewhelming. I do read
them with interest though.
As for me well the endocrinologist is so pleased with
my progress that I may be discharged from their care
and go back to seeing my GP every so often for Blood
checks. I feel much more stable than I did, well since
I changed my GP and got referred to the
Endocrinologist.
I sent my new GP a thank you note as I really do feel
that she was the instigator in helping me to feel
'well' again. I have also managed to lose 42lbs since
February with a slimming club and that has helped me
so much as I feel so much healthier and fitter. I also
have enough energy to do yoga a couple of times a week
(some of the postures are very good for the thyroid
too).
I have had many investigations including test for
adrenal fatigue - negative, radioisotope scan for
lymphoedema - now negative, ultrasound scan for
vascular studies as my legs still go numb - so far no
results, and a test to see if I have celiacs disease
which so far I have not had the results to. I feel
that they have done a full work up on me and now feel
stable on 100mcg a day for six days. I still have my
off days but overall they are not nearly as frequent
as they used to be and it just tells me to take things
easy for a day or two which isn't necesarily a bad
thing.
Anyway that is me for now, hope you are doing okay too
sheila and hopefully I will start becoming a bit more
vocal in the group. Again thanks for your post.
Ali

Re: Introduction ... Hypothyroid

2007-01-25 05:03:35

Look into www.adrenalfatigue.org and see if you fill in any of these
symptoms as well.
one of the clues here is ringing of the ears---

Introduction ... Hypothyroid

2007-01-25 01:12:10

Hello to everyone. First let me intro. myself. My name is Julie & I'm in my
early 30's. I've [officially] had hypothyroidism for a little over 2 years
but something else seems to be taking place and I'm at my wits end.

this is cute

2007-01-24 18:03:32

take a look at the cartoons
http://www.thyroidpower.com/consults.html

new here.

2007-01-24 08:26:08

Hello all, my name is Chriss.
I was diagnosed Hypothyroid last February. I have to say this is the most
frustrating scary thing that has every happened to me.
I have been tested and re-tested for the past 5 years.
It was finally picked up by a Holistic prac.
After I was nearly bald!
I started out on Armour, and have switched to Synthroid with
better results but, not where I would like to be yet.
I'm still very tired all of the time and my hair and skin are just awful!
I read a post this morning from someone that said you should take
your weight in synthroid? is that true? I am on 100mcg. and I weigh
122lbs. is anyone using T3 in addition? I have asked my Prac about
this but she says the "studies" on it are scary.
thanks for any input!

Re: Vitamin B1

2007-01-24 07:57:58

Thanks for the info on that and that herb for asthma. I'll have to
ask my doc about it since I take anti-inflammatories that thin my
blood. Take care. Sheila--- In

karen - iodine

2007-01-24 00:17:38

my understand, Karen, is that it's the same. Of couse,
I might have been misinformed. Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] riboflavin

2007-01-23 16:44:23

it's good to know that if you have too much, it's
simply flushes out of your body so you can't overdose
on it! Sheila

urine from a pediatric site ---hahhahhaha

2007-01-23 08:01:26

interesting!!! didn't know you could get all these
wild colored urines!!! sheila

hashi's

2007-01-23 05:36:23

yeah, that's true. sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] Red/Hot hands with white splotches

2007-01-22 22:44:56

could be reynaud's syndrome ( I think that's the name of it?)

iodine--can it be getting in my lungs?

2007-01-22 09:33:13

Hi tina, how bizzare about the iodine. I had no idea
that I could be absorbing it in my skin/lungs, etc
just from working in a restaurant with seafood. Ugh!!
Now as far as I know, my allergist didn't test me to
see if I was allergic to iodine. I will have to talk
to me endo about all this...ask him to test my levels
and see what he says about it.
thanks so much!!!! Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] Need help Tina

2007-01-22 08:40:42

Shirley,
I don't take any supplements until 4 hours after taking my thyroid meds.
You just never know what could interfere. I would print out the large e
mail Tina sent yesterday (the supplement list from ithyroid.com) and give it
to your family members. Ideally, numbers should be in the upper quadrant.
HTH,
Karen

Vitamin B1

2007-01-22 05:57:23

I read in a book on nutrition that vitamin B1 deficiency makes
thyroid gland non functional. Poeple who exercise need more. It is
found in yeast, sunflower seeds and sesame seeds. It definitely works
for constipation.

riboflavin

2007-01-21 23:32:25

Deficiency of riboflavin is not common in the U.S. because this
vitamin is plentiful in the food supply. Significant deficiency
syndromes are characterized by sore throat, swelling of mucous
membranes, mouth and/or lip sores, anemia, and dermatitis
There is no known toxicity to riboflavin. Because riboflavin is a
water-soluble vitamin, excess amounts are easily excreted by the body
in the urine.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002411.htm

Re: urine from a pediatric site ---hahhahhaha

2007-01-21 16:47:48

RED URINE
Hematuria (Blood in the urine)
Hemoglobinuria (Breakdown of red blood cells results to Pink urine)
Myoglobinuria (From muscle injury or disease, or drugs)
Urate Cyrstal (Common in newborns)
Food Pidgments (Beets, Blackberries, Anthocyanine)
Dyes (Aniline, Rhodamine B, Pyridium, Phenolphthalein, Congo Red)
Drugs (Pyrvinium, Phenothiazines, Deferroxamine, Methyldopa, Senna)
Porphyrins
Red Diaper Syndrome (Serratia marcescens)
Biliuria
GREEN URINE
Food Color
Biliverdin
Drugs (Amitryptyline hydrochloride, Methocarbamol)
Pseudomonas infection
Others (Phenol, Resorcinol, Tetrahydronapthalene, Metheylene blue)
BLUE URINE
Methylene Blue
Triamterene (Dyrenium)
Doan'sKidney Pills
Blue Diaper Syndrome
DARK OR BLACK URINE
Hematuria
Drugs (Mehtornidazole, Nitrofurans, Methocarbamol, Quinine,
Phenacetin)
Dyes
Melanoma
Others (Nitrates, Naphtol, Phenols, Rhubarb, Alkaptonuria, Cascara,
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons, Carotene, Vitamin B complex,)
YELLOW URINE
Riboflavin
Picric Acid (Trinitrophenol)
Jaundice
ORANGE URINE
Sulfixocazone-Phenazopyridine
Pyridium
Rifampin
MILKY WHITE URINE
Pus
PhophateCrystals
Chyle
PURPLE URINE
Phenolphthalein
**

B info

2007-01-21 07:42:58

http://home.howstuffworks.com/vitamin-b1.htm

Re: hashi's

2007-01-21 00:53:24

http://www.emedicine.com/MED/topic949.htm
looks like you can be either too much or too less iodine with
hashi's??

goiter info

2007-01-20 20:29:26

http://www.emedicine.com/MED/topic916.htm

Re: jan---link for info

2007-01-20 18:02:42

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http://www.ithyroid.com/hypot_treatments.htm

Re: iodine--can it be getting in my lungs?

2007-01-20 12:30:30

I just erased my entire message--uggg---iodine is a mineral, sodium
is NA it's an element and sodium chloride is salt---iodized salt is
salt that contains iodine --we do this so we get enough idoine in our
diet. Sorry I did not explain that one enough before.
And if you are allergic to iodine because of your Hashi's which seems
to be common with this illness (is everyone also this way?)----
breathing in sea food is breathing in iodine and yes it gets absorbed
into you (skin and lungs)---what amounts of it I do not know, but
just like me with smoke I can't take it---and yes welts on your skin
is a symptom of a allergic reaction!!!
I did work for 14 doctors for many many years--so I do know some of
this stuff--but not everything. Now what you have to do is tell your
doctor!!!! and request a test for iodine to see what levels are in
your body.
First you always have to have proof for any claim to your health--you
must take care of yourself--if you are indeed allergic to iodine and
you are working in it everyday---you have to get out!!!
anyone who ever worked in any medical environment will tell you the
same thing. Best of luck and talk to your doctor asap!!!!!!!!! tina

Re: the yellow is from the B's---

2007-01-20 08:46:11

You know this is a great question--I'll have to find out!! ha!! I do
know it's from the B's though!!!!

why too many people with thyroid problems

2007-01-19 19:36:47

I wonder if it's too much stress. Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] the yellow is from the B's---

2007-01-19 19:05:36

Hi Tina, is that okay? Does it mean the B's are
getting absorbed okay. thanks, Sheila

iodine--can it be getting in my lungs?

2007-01-19 13:53:09

hi Tina, my brain fog is bad tonight, so forgive me if
I've already asked this question...
when they test for iodine, does it say "sodium" on the
lab results instead of iodine?
It seems like in my Hashi group, I am one of the few
who has a lot of energy. There are two others in my
group whose doctors keep them in HYPER range, and one
of them has had thyroid cancer and a TT.
Today my energy level was SO low I thought I had
forgotten to take my thyroid medicine (usually when my
energy drops this low I realize that's what's
happened). Today was different. I did take my meds.
My husband and I were doing laundry, tidying up and
stuff...nothing much. Around 3:00 (when I'm usually at
a VERY high energy level, I could barely climb the
stairs. I went to work at 4 p.m. & my energy was low
all night, but was climbing back slowly.
I had an exhausting night last night though at work.
Tina, I want to ask you about the iodine in the air at
work. Do you really think it can be affecting me? Do
you think the iodine from the shrimps and so forth and
getting into my lungs from the fumes in the air?
Last night I came home and had big welps all over my
wrist, and they itched really bad.
This morning the welps had gone away, but there were
scratch marks there...makes me believe I got scratched
at work and some seafood came in contact with my wrist
& those tiny open scratches...maybe from the towel I
was cleaning with...not sure.
Anyway, I want to ask you a question. You said you
thought I should apply for disability.
I don't think it's good for me to work there, but my
doctor gave me these inhalers to help me. Maybe I
won't have any problems.
What about my thyroid? Is there any proof that the
iodine from the seafood is harmful to me? Does it get
in my lungs?
Well, take care and have a good night! Sheila

Re: [hypothyroidism] Re:Jan-yellow hands

2007-01-19 03:26:34

Interesting info, Jan. I have always have always had a
yellor palor to my skin. One doctor thought I was
jaundice until he found out I was eating 1-3 pounds of
carrots a day. I was craving them--just couldn't get
enough.
I still eat a lot of carrots; they're like my favorite
food. Do you think maybe I might be craving it because
my body might not be converting the Vit. A?
take it easy!Sheila

Re: jan

2007-01-18 16:08:46

from that ithyroid website the man who wrote all those articles
(john) says the body needs 300mg a day of thyroid to work --so if a
person is taking in only 50mgs that means her thyroid has to be
producing the difference here of 250mg. So if your friend is taking
in 200mg and has no thyroid where is the rest coming from?? This was
in one of the last articles I posted---tina??? is this a correct
assumption the the required amount used by the body?? does anyone
else know?

Re: hypo recovery story--from ithyroid.com

2007-01-18 13:11:48

Hi---All I am trying to do here is figure out how so many people are
sick with this illness and why it's growing!!! there has to be
reasons behind it besides what we all have been told. Must be more to
this!!! It makes me crazy to see so many people sick. You know what
is weird one of the articles mentioned some states that have very low
levels of selenium in their soil, makes you wonder huh??

Re: [hypothyroidism] hypo recovery story--from ithyroid.com

2007-01-18 04:25:55

Tina,
thanks so much for this. wrote a lot down.... I just don't want to spend a
fortune on all kinds of different vitamins, but I will surely figure
something out :)
Karen

Isocort** calling in order Monday before Noon unless they're closed for Columbus Day?

2007-01-18 02:21:31

I'm calling in this order tomorrow before noon. I don't want to hold people
up who ordered & paid. It should only take 2-3 days to get these to me. I'll
keep you posted.
I can't afford to order extra because I won't be able to pay for them...Any
questions please write.
Thank you, Linda
***************************
Bev F 6 Bottles Paid
Diana Y 4 Bottles Paid
Kristina H 2 Bottles Paid
Kelley L 2 Bottles Paid
Ann P 2 Bottles Paid
****************************
Sue Z 4 Bottles Mailing Check
****************************
Jan "Loboshe" 1 Bottle? Need to know?
"Wannie" Jan A. 3 Bottles ? PayPal? Need to know?
Don 1 Bottle? Need to know? Never heard back?

Re: Red/Hot hands with white splotches

2007-01-17 18:33:02

I get this too. I read somewhere the reddish hands with white spots
are when you are lacking more in adrenal hormones, and the carrot
yellow hands when you are lacking more in thyroid hormones. The
thyroid one was because we can't absorb vitamin A, can't convert it
into betacarotene so it tints hand and feet instead. If I had known
it 3 months ago - right before my thyroid troubles started again, my
hands were so yellow my husband even commented on it. After I
increased the thyroid meds, they became reddisih with white spots. I
know started DHEA and they are a bit less red.
And you are right, I get flushed when this happens, especially around
the temples.
Jan

Re: [hypothyroidism] Sheila - allergies and also info on vitamins

2007-01-17 13:06:43

Hi Sheila, the name of the multi is called Ultimate Capsules. There is no
iodine or soy in it. It's weird b/c my urine was REALLYyellow a few hours
after taking them. Does that mean I didn't need much of the vitamins or my
body just can't use it or something and it's just going right thru me. I
never had this problem with the whole food ones, so does that mean I was
absorbing all of those. so confused. I hope I made the right choice.
I have a favor to ask you guys. When replying to a message could you erase
most if not all of the text below. Perhaps just leave the few lines on the
bottom that relate to what you're replying to. The reason is that hotmail
only allows a certain amount of space and my account keeps getting full and
is bouncing back emails to people. The reason is that many of the thyroid e
mails are large b/c they build up with all the replies which I love by the
way. I'm learning a lot......I would REALLY appreciate it!!
Karen

this is at the bottom---I think many might have missed this--so here it is

2007-01-17 12:21:18

LIST OF SUPPLEMENTS
Thyroid conditions, especially hyperthyroidism, are characterized by
serious nutritional deficiencies. The following list of supplements
helped me and others to recover from hyperthyroidism and
hypothyroidism and are important to correct the nutritional
deficiencies which seem to cause these thyroid conditions. All of
these nutrients have been shown to be essential for human life. While
hypos may do well by selecting a good multiple vitamin/mineral
supplement and adding to it as necessary, hypers have found it
necessary to obtain these supplements singly so that the ratios can
be changed as needed and so that certain minerals like manganese and
iodine can be avoided until the body can once again tolerate these.
This list is not intended as a "buffet" from which you can pick and
choose. I consider each nutrient listed here important and possibly
necessary for improving the thyroid diseases.
MINERALS
BORON
(Increases estrogen which suppresses thyroid function.)
HYPERS: 3-6 mg per day.
HYPOS: Probably don't need extra, unless estrogen is low. Usually
hypos have high estrogen and low progesterone and testosterone.
CALCIUM and MAGNESIUM
(Regulates heart rate and builds bone.)
HYPERS: Take with magnesium, 1:1 ratio to suppress "thyroid storms.
HyperT interferes with calcium metabolism and promotes osteoporosis,
so take at least 1000 mg each of calcium and magnesium.
HYPOS: Take cal/mag in a 2:1 ratio, as needed, perhaps 600/300 mg.
CHROMIUM
(Involved in glucose metabolism and insulin production. The
conversion of T4 to T3 is influenced by insulin, which is probably
the reason why diabetics have low thyroid function.)
HYPERS: 200 mcg per day.
HYPOS: 400 mcg per day.
COPPER
(Copper seems to be the most important mineral for hypers to take.
Copper deficiency has been shown to cause elevated levels of thyroid
hormones. It is also essential for monoamine oxidase production which
degrades hormones after they have fulfilled their function. Take on
full stomach, since it may produce nausea at first.)
HYPERS: 6-10 mg per day. Copper is the most important mineral for
hyperT, so take copper first.
HYPOS: 0-3 mg per day. Hypos may have excess copper which is
suppressing the thyroid.
IODINE
(Kelp) (Most essential mineral for thyroid hormone production--
deficiency of iodine and/or selenium causes goiter, a swelling of the
thyroid gland. A goiter is the body's attempt to increase the
production of thyroid hormones from an inadequate supply of
nutrients. Replenishing those nutrients will enable the body to
resorb the goitrous tissue and allow the thyroid to return to its
normal size.)
HYPERS: Don't take iodine or kelp until copper is built up. In cases
of goiter, supplementing with iodine with insufficient selenium will
make the goiter worse. Once copper has been supplemented for awhile,
test with one kelp tablet. If hyper symptoms are not increased,
gradually increase the kelp up to 6 tablets per day.
HYPOS: Start with one table per day and build up slowly to 6 tablets
per day.
IRON
(Iron is a critical mineral, because while it is very necessary and
often low in thyroid disease, iron intake without a corresponding
intake of copper can deplete copper. Iron works with copper to build
hemoglobin, so therefore too much of either can deplete the other.
Usually in hyperthyroidism, copper is deficient and has to be built
up first. Once it is replenished, iron supplementation with the
copper (probably in a ratio of no more than 5:1, iron:copper) will
then help both minerals get built up. If hyper symptoms increase,
stop or reduce the iron.) In hypothyroidism, iron is probably more
deficient than copper and so should be supplemented first. Once iron
is built up then a small amount (2-3 mg) of copper can be added. Iron
increases body temperature by increasing norepinephrine and
increasing cellular oxygen, which helps the low body temperature
problem in hypothyroidism. Iron is known as the strength mineral.)
HYPERS: After copper has been supplemented for a few days, try a
small amount of iron. Gradually increase to about 18 mg.
HYPOS: Take 18-36 mg per day.
LITHIUM
(Lithium, sodium, and potassium are important components in the
cellular pumps that transport minerals and amino acids across cell
membranes. A deficiency of lithium may cause the mineral and amino
acid deficiencies we see in hyperthyroidism. Studies have indicated
that manic-depression may develop from a lithium deficiency
(hyperthyroidism is associated with manic-depression) and some
psychiatric patients get hyperthyroidism when lithium treatment is
abruptly ended. Limiting sodium and potassium intake for hypers seems
important in helping correct the imbalance that may be the result of
a lithium deficiency. It also appears that hypos may need more sodium
and potassium and perhaps less lithium. As of 7-3-99 I am studying
lithium and its relationship to sodium and potassium and hope to be
able to add more information to this soon. Lithium is available as a
supplement called lithium orotate from www.vitaminshoppe.com in a 120
mg dosage. Most nutrition books including the Nutrition Almanac do
not even mention lithium, so I've been unable to find any information
on a reasonable amount for supplementation.. Because hyperT is
associated with an abrupt termination of lithium supplementation, be
careful.)
HYPERS: Lithium orotate 120 mg. My best guess is to take one or two a
day. (I am presently trying to determine what the proper dosage. I've
taken up to four a day without any immediate noticeable effects.) It
may be beneficial to limit sodium and potassium intake until lithium
is replenished.
HYPOS: Avoid. Ensure adequate intake of sodium and potassium.
MAGNESIUM
(Essential for thyroid function and appears deficient in both hypos
and hypers.)
(See instructions under calcium.)
MANGANESE
(Assists iron metabolism and plays a role in the production of
thyroid hormone. The hair analyses of both hypers and hypos show that
most are deficient in manganese and chromium. These two minerals work
together. Manganese should not be taken by hypers without also taking
copper and iron. I believe that manganese and chromium should be
taken together and too much of one or the other may disrupt the
balance between the two. It's possible that once copper is built up,
the body will tolerate more manganese and chromium and these two
minerals are probably essential for complete recovery from thyroid
disease.)
HYPERS: 5-10 mg per day. Make sure copper and iron are supplemented
before manganese is started. If hyper symptoms are experienced,
suspect manganese or zinc.
HYPOS: Take 10-20 mg per day.
MOLYBDENUM
(Assists copper utilization. Deficiency symptoms are similar to hyper
symptoms.)
HYPERS: Take 250-500 mcg per day.
HYPOS: Unknown
POTASSIUM
(Increases cellular response to T3.)
HYPERS: Unknown
HYPOS: Eat high potassium foods like bananas and potatoes.
SELENIUM
(The essential mineral component of 5'-deiodinase enzymes which
convert the prohormone T4 to the cellular active hormone T3.
Deficiency of selenium will cause "low T3 Syndrome" where T4 levels
are normal but T3 is low. Selenium and/or iodine deficiencies cause
goiter. Selenium is the most important mineral to counter the toxic
effects of heavy metals. Selenium is essential for production of
glutathione peroxidase which is one of the three most important
antioxidant defenses of the body. Can be toxic at levels of over 1000
mcg per day. Goiter will result from a selenium deficiency (or iodine
deficiency), and many hypers and hypos have goiter.)
HYPERS: Take 200-600 mcg per day. If you have a known high level of
mercury or other toxic metal, consider taking more. Start at 100 mcg
and work up slowly.
HYPOS: Take 200-600 mcg of selenium per day. Mercury in silver
amalgam fillings uses up selenium for detoxification. High amounts of
amalgam fillings may require more selenium. Don't take over 600 mcg.
SILICON
(Supplement known as silica, from the plant horsetail. Assists
collagen formation and seems to have thyroid function. Helps to
antagonize aluminum which may cause copper excretion and
hyperthyroidism.)
HYPERS: Take 2 per day. One information source recommends taking
rests from this supplement, like 3 days on, then 2 days off. I've
used it every day for about a year with no negative symptoms.
HYPOS: Same as Hypers.
SILVER
(Next to nothing is known about silver and the thyroid, but my guess
is that there is some connection. Silver is just below copper in the
Periodic Table and therefore has similar chemical properties. Copper
and zinc have electrical properties and can be used to make a
battery. Silver has similar but better electrical conductivity
properties than copper, so there is the possibility that it is
important for the same reasons copper is.
However, there is information that leads me to suspect that silver
may be very important in controlling TED (thyroid eye disease.) As
you will see in the cadmium file and the TED file, I suspect that
cadmium (high in tobacco) is one of the prime causes of TED. Cadmium
is just to the right of silver in the Periodic Table and probably an
excess of cadmium will interfere with silver absorption. Silver has
been shown in studies to inhibit fibroblast proliferation and this is
the mechanism by which TED develops. See Silver.
I took colloidal silver during my recovery from hyperthyroidism, but
have been unable to ascertain if it was important in the healing
process or not. I can at least say that it didn't hurt. I did not
develop TED. My suggestion is to take 5 drops of colloidal silver per
day or follow the directions on the bottle whether you are hyper or
hypo.)
HYPERS: 5 Drops of Colloidal silver per day.
HYPOS: Same.
SULFUR
(Supplement known at MSM--methylsulfanylmethane. Works with copper in
many functions and may get depleted with copper supplementation.
Deficiency causes aches in joints and muscles.)
HYPERS: After copper and iron are built up, start MSM (or when joints
get sore.) Common supplement amounts are 1000-3000 mg.
HYPOS: Take 1000-3000 mg.
TRACE ELEMENTS
(Contains small amounts of all minerals. May be important in
supplying unknown necessary trace elements. Ionized form best,
colloidal form second best. Trace elements can also be obtained from
seafoods.)
HYPERS: Supplement with recommended amount unless the iodine,
manganese, or zinc content increase hyper symptoms. If so, take
sporadically. If you can't tolerate this at all, take copper and
molybdenum until copper is built up and then re-try.
HYPOS: Take recommended amount.
VANADIUM
(I am still researching this, but vanadium seems to be involved in
thyroid function. High vanadium levels have been found in the hair of
manic/depressives. This means it may be a thyroid stimulant.
Available as a supplement, vanadyl sulfate.)
HYPERS: Avoid. I am pretty sure hypers should never take vanadium.
Whenever I've used it I've had increased hyper symptoms.
HYPOS: Unknown. There are reports that a vanadium deficiency is a
part of diabetes and since many hypothyroids have either diabetes or
hypoglycemia, it's possible that hypos are deficient. From my
experience I feel vanadium stimulates the thyroid, but I would be
very careful with this until more is known.
ZINC
(Works with copper, but also may increase thyroid function. This
mechanism is unknown, but zinc may spare selenium because it also
detoxifies heavy metals. May increase progesterone production, which
stimulates thyroid hormone production. The optimum zinc to copper
ratio is about 8:1, but hypers need a lower ratio and hypos a higher
ratio. Take on full stomach since it may cause nausea. Take in
morning as it may keep you awake if taken at night.)
HYPERS: After copper and iron are built up some, try a small amount
of zinc. If tolerated take one to five milligrams of zinc per
milligram of copper. If hyper symptoms increase, suspect zinc and
reduce amount taken. Premenopausal women may find it better to
supplement zinc during the first half of the month and use less or no
zinc during the second half.
HYPOS: Take 30-100 mg of zinc to increase thyroid production. If
rapid heart beat is felt at night or early morning, decrease zinc.
VITAMINS
A and D
(From fish oil. Usual capsules contain 10,000 IU of A and 400 IU of
D. There is some evidence indicating that excessive amounts of
vitamin D, possibly only the synthetic form added to foods, may be a
problem. A study on rats showed that vitamin A deficiency causes
hypothyroidism. Hypos have difficulty converting beta carotene to
vitamin A, so supplement with a preformed vitamin A, such as from
fish oil.)
HYPERS: Take 1-3 capsule per day. Get adequate amounts of sunshine.
Several hypers have reported benefits from carrot juice. Hypers have
an increased rate of conversion of beta carotene to vitamin A.
HYPOS: 1-3 capsules per day.
B-COMPLEX
(Vitamins usually included in B-complex will be listed separately.
Some people may have to take individual B vitamins, while most may
have to supplement extra B vitamins to the B-complex. It appears that
the best way to get the B vitamins is to take a B-complex supplement
(50 mg) with extra biotin (up to 1000 mcg) and extra PABA (up to 500
mg).<BR
HYPERS: Take one or two 50 mg B-complex per day.
HYPOS: Same as Hypers.
B-1 (Thiamine. Believed essential for copper and sulfur metabolism.
Also appears important for correcting eye involvement in Grave's.
Many drugs including alcohol and tobacco destroy B-1 and I believe
this is the mechanism by which these drugs increase the frequency of
Grave's and eye involvement.)
HYPERS: Up to 200 mg or more.
HYPOS: Up to 100 mg or more or taken in B-complex.
B-2 (Riboflavin. Believed essential for copper metabolism. Feelings
of eye irritation or the sensation of grit under the eyelids
indicates B-2 deficiency.)
HYPERS: 100-200 mg.
HYPOS: 100 mg or taken in B-complex.
B-3 (Niacin. Niacinamide is in most multiples. Niacin is a serotonin
precursor, which calms and counters the catecholamine hormones which
produce feelings of fear and anxiety. Niacin may be better than
niacinamide but causes flushing and requires adaptation. If you've
never taken niacin before, be aware that you could get a total body
flush which makes you hot and itchy all over. It is not dangerous,
but many people have gone to the hospital emergency room convinced
that they were in real trouble. To minimize the flush, take on a full
stomach and start with 25 mg. at a time, before increasing it.)
HYPERS: Take 100-200 mg a day.
HYPOS: Take 100 mg a day.
B-5 (Pantothenic Acid. May be involved in copper metabolism.
Important for adrenal health.)
HYPERS: 100-500 mg.
HYPOS: 100-200 mg.
B-6 (Pyridoxine. Essential for zinc deficiency. Hypos are usually
deficient in zinc and B-6. Helps regulate sodium/potassium balance
which is disturbed in thyroid diseases and helps prevent water
retention in the extremities. Sodium/potassium balance controls the
transport of essential nutrients into the cells. If you feel pain in
the wrist--carpal tunnel syndrome--take extra B-6 and zinc.)
HYPERS: You may not want to take this at first to prevent excess zinc
metabolism and possible hyper symptoms, but later, you'll need to
take this to balance your B vitamins.
HYPOS: Take 100-200 mg.
B-12 (Contains cobalt. Facilitates iron metabolism and for treatment
of anemia. May deplete iron if taken without iron.)
HYPERS: Probably don't need extra B-12. Amount in B-complex is
adequate.
HYPOS: May be deficient. Check levels and supplement if necessary.
BIOFLAVONOIDS, RUTIN, QUERCETIN. Many people with thyroid disease,
particularly hyperthyroidism, have bleeding gums, a condition which
doesn't respond to the usual vitamin C therapy that most health books
recommend. Other nutrients often recommended for bleeding gums
include bioflavonoids, rutin, and quercetin. It's quite possible that
these facilitate collagen formation and may be very important for
copper utilization. If this is true then they may be very important
in correcting thyroid conditions and care should be taken to eat a
high percentage of raw foods and to supplement these nutrients.
HYPERS: Take amounts as directed on bottle.
HYPOS: Same.
CHOLINE and INOSITOL
(Plays an important role in glutathione production. Choline
deficiency affects males and females differently and this indicates
that it may play a vital role in thyroid diseases.)
HYPERS: Take 500 mg each of choline and inositol.
HYPOS: Same as hypers.
BIOTIN
(Essential for metabolism of branched chain amino acids and may be
involved in copper metabolism.)
HYPERS: Take 500-1000 mcg per day. Amount in B-complex is inadequate.
HYPOS: Same as Hypers.
CO-Q-10
(Found to be low in hypers but normal in hypos, CoQ10 protects the
heart from damage which may occur in hyperthyroidism. It's possible,
but unknown whether CoQ10 will help hypers.)
HYPERS: Take up to 90 mg per day.
HYPOS: Probably don't need it unless heart problems exist, then same
as hypers
FOLIC ACID
(May have thyroid functions. Hypers have been found to have adequate
levels, but I haven't found information about hypos yet.)
HYPERS: 400 mcg per day. Don't take more than this.
HYPOS: 400 mcg per day.
PABA
(PABA appears to have very wide-ranging benefits for thyroid diseases
and for many diseases associated with thyroid diseases. Seems to be a
key vitamin that enables copper to be utilized properly. Reports
state that excessive amounts may cause nausea, diarrhea, or skin
rash, but I believe these symptoms won't occur if PABA is taken with
an adequate amount of copper.)
HYPERS: Take 200-500 mg per day. Take in proportion to the copper you
are using.
HYPOS: Take 200 mg a day.
PHOSPHATIDYLCHOLINE
(Important source of choline which comes from lecithin and which is
recommended as the best supplement to help correct cirrhosis of the
liver and to promote liver health. The liver is a key organ for
conversion of T4 to T3 and also for the production of bile to
eliminate heavy metals like mercury which interrupt enzyme and
endocrine function.)
HYPERS: Take (2) 1200 mg capsules a day
HYPOS: Same as hypers.
C
(Vitamin C is a very important vitamin but our society may be overly
concerned with getting enough of it. Many foods are supplemented with
vitamin C and many people take large amounts to ward off colds and
other perceived health threats. When I got hyperthyroidism, I was
taking 10 GRAMS of vitamin C a day. I now realize that this was
excessive and have cut the amount way down. I now believe that
excessive amounts of vitamin C may be a real problem for people with
thyroid disease, especially hypers. Lately I've been seeing that
deficiencies of antioxidants may be a cause of thyroid disease. I
recently ran across a study which showed that cu,zn-superoxide
dismutase (SOD) which is one of the main antioxidants of the body, is
decreased by vitamin C. This may occur because vitamin C is also an
antioxidant and may be taking up some of the free radical scavenging
jobs that SOD normally performs. However, we have seen that hypers
experience worse hyper symptoms with larger amounts of vitamin C, and
there are studies which indicate that high amounts of vitamin C
interfere with copper absorption. These facts lead me to think that
high amounts of vitamin C may be a contributory cause of lower levels
of SOD and thereby contributing to hyperthyroidism. Also, vitamin C
interferes with calcium absorption which is another problem that
hypers have. I recommend taking a very low amount of vitamin C, if
any, especially for hypers. Whether hypos need more is something I'm
going to look into.
HYPERS: Take no more than 500 mg per day. You might want to
experiment with taking none or 100-200 mg to see what happens.
HYPOS: Unknown, but limit intake to 1000 mg until more is known.
D
(See vitamin A.)
E
(Assists estrogen production, works with selenium, and has other
thyroid
functions. If you've never taken E before, start with 100 IU and work
up
slowly.)
HYPERS: 400 IU per day. Not more.
HYPOS: 400 IU per day.
K
(Works with boron to increase estrogen production. Take yogurt
occasionally to assist production. Probably unnecessary to take a
supplement since intestinal bacteria can make it.)
AMINO ACIDS
CYSTEINE
(Probably the most important amino acid to supplement for hypos. Key
precursor to both glutathione and the deiodinase enzymes which
convert T4 to T3. Assists zinc utilization, so it may be more
important for hypos than hypers. Currently under study.)
HYPERS: Unknown. Currently studying.
HYPOS: Take 500-1000 mg per day.
TYROSINE
(Precursor to the thyroid hormones and the catecholamines.)
HYPERS: Don't supplement.
HYPOS: Take 500 mg per day.
PHENYLALANINE
(Precursor to tyrosine.)
HYPERS: Don't supplement.
HYPOS: Still researching.
TRYPTOPHAN
(Precursor to niacin and serotonin. Serotonin is the inhibitory
(calming) hormone which counters the catecholamines (stimulating
hormones which produce anxiety and fear.) High intake reduces the
uptake of tyrosine. Studies have shown that hyperthyroidism can be
induced in animals by a low tryptophan diet. Eating adequate amounts
of protein should ensure that you get adequate amounts of tryptophan.
If hyperthyroidism is severe or doesn't respond to anything else, you
may want to try tryptophan. Pure L-tryptophan is unavailable except
through a doctor's prescription, but health food stores are now
carrying a metabolite of tryptophan which may work as well.)
HYPERS: May be beneficial.
HYPOS: Probably not necessary.
BRANCHED CHAIN AMINO ACIDS (BCAAs)
(Leucine, isoleucine, and valine. Compete with tyrosine for
absorption, so increasing BCAAs may decrease tyrosine absorption and
thereby decrease production of the thyroid and catecholamine
hormones.)
HYPERS: Beneficial, especially for exercise, sports, and body
building. Does not seem to cause hyper symptoms like other protein
supplements.
HYPOS: Unknown.
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this explains reference ranges---click to next it goes on

2007-01-17 07:42:51

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/features/ref_ranges.html

Re: Need help Tina

2007-01-16 20:38:35

Every lab uses their own reference ranges so it would be difficult to
say for your neices and difficult for you to decide for them, the
best bet as many have said is to go by symptoms. But I do think it's
very necessary to really know how one is doing and that way is by
eductating yourself about not only about the illness but how to
listen to your own body speaking to you.
This site you have to really play around with it and keep clicking
around --it will give you some ideas how tests work ---I went though
all of my daughters tests again and depending on the labs each one
gave me a different reading.
http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/t3/glance.html

example from this link

2007-01-16 20:26:19

T3
Formally known as: triiodothyronine
Related tests: TSH, T4 email this page
print this article
The Test

this is from ithyroid.com---read to bottom!!! the best list I have found so far

2007-01-16 03:06:52

SUPPLEMENTING WITH ESSENTIAL NUTRIENTS
Taking nutritional supplements is an incredible tool that we have at
our disposal. However, this is a tool with the proverbial double-
edge. While it's possible to reverse a deficiency, correct an
imbalance of nutrients, and thereby restore health, it is also
possible to unbalance our body's nutrients and create disease.
You will read in many books on nutrition about the need to keep the B
complex vitamins balanced. There are four B vitamins usually
mentioned that need to be taken in approximately equal amounts: B-1
(thiamine), B-2 (riboflavin), B-3 (niacin or niacinamide), and B-6
(pyridoxine). This is very good advice because taking large amounts
of some, but not all, of these can eventually create problems.
What most nutritionists and authors of books on nutrition fail to
emphasize is that virtually all nutrients need to be kept in balance
and that taking any one nutrient for enough time can create an
imbalance which creates health problems.
For example, I always had read that vitamin C is wonderful, protects
you from a myriad of diseases including cancer, and the more you take
the better off you'll be. Linus Pauling, the Nobel prize winning
scientist, wrote a book on vitamin C in which he reported keeping
terminal cancer patients alive for long beyond expectation by giving
them very large doses of vitamin C, sometimes up to 50 grams or more
a day. This is a very large amount considering that the Minimum
Daily Requirement is less than 100 milligrams and 1 gram is a large
amount.
In 1997 on the basis of this information I was taking 10 grams of
vitamin C every day and feeling great just as I expected. However,
in the middle of feeling great I developed hyperthyroidism, which as
you probably know is a very serious disease. In my subsequent
studies I found that taking very large amounts of vitamin C can
deplete copper. As you will read elsewhere, I feel that copper
deficiency is a key factor that causes hyperthyroidism.
Other nutrients seem to work the same way. For example, taking
excess vitamin E seems to aggravate hyperthyroidism because it
depletes selenium, the mineral that works with vitamin E. Zinc,
which is on every nutritionist's "must take" list, can deplete copper
if taken in excess without also supplementing copper. The minerals
manganese and chromium work as a pair in various functions and taking
either one of them without the other can deplete the one not taken.
These minerals are important for thyroid health.
Copper and iron work together to form hemoglobin. If you become
deficient in either one, you can get anemic--either iron-deficiency
anemia or copper-deficiency anemia. Many people have reported to me
that they have been found anemic by their doctors and been given
large amounts of iron to correct the problem. Usually the anemia
failed to improve. One woman took close to 200 mgs of iron per day
for a long time and when her anemia didn't improve, her doctor put
her in the hospital for an iron-transfusion, a process in which an
extremely large amount of iron is given intravenously. Not only did
this not help, but she became extremely ill and was ill for days.
When these people who told me about these experiences had thyroid
disease, my first guess was that they were deficient in copper and
not iron. When they began supplementing with copper, their anemia
improved. I believe that taking the extra iron without copper
further depleted their copper and worsened their thyroid health.
It's possible to go on and on through the list of essential nutrients
and discovering more and more relationships between nutrients in
which taking excess amounts of one can cause deficiencies of others
to worsen. I can't think of any nutrient that this principle doesn't
apply to.
To get back to the B complex example mentioned first, I believe that
vitamins work with and facilitate the utilization of specific
minerals. For example, vitamin B-6 is known to be the vitamin that
facilitates zinc metabolism. When B-6 is recommended for any
condition, such as carpal tunnel syndrome, then it can be assumed
that zinc will also benefit the situation if taken with B-6.
It seems that the other B complex vitamins, B-1, B-2, and B-3
facilitate copper metabolism. If this is correct, then you can see
that taking excessive amounts of B-6 alone could eventually lead to a
copper deficiency. On the other hand, taking B-1, B-2, and B-3
without B-6 could eventually lead to deficiencies of B-6 and zinc.
If this were done long enough, then I would expect the person to
develop sore wrists, the beginning symptom of carpal tunnel syndrome
and itchy skin, another symptom of zinc deficiency.
The message that I want to emphasize is to try to balance your
nutrients, not unbalance them. If you are starting with a
deficiency, then taking a nutrient such as copper or zinc can
gradually correct that deficiency. However, at some point, the
opposite mineral needs to be supplemented to prevent that mineral
from becoming deficient.
As we attempt to correct deficiencies and nutrient imbalances, we
don't want to create other deficiencies and imbalances. We want to
move toward balance and then stay there. To achieve this, it's
necessary to gradually change the nutrients taken and move toward a
more balanced supplementation schedule. For example, when
rebalancing copper and zinc, you might start out with a 1:1 ratio of
zinc to copper if you were hyper, and a 15:1 ratio if you were
hypo. Gradually as you recover you'll want to change that ratio to
a ratio that is right for you. For women that might be 5:1 if you
were hyper, and 8:1 if you were hypo. For a man, the ratio will
probably be higher because of the greater need for zinc.
One way to prevent creating imbalances as you work toward correcting
deficiencies is to not take supplements every day. Some people take
them every other or every third day. During my recovery I took them
about 5 days a week, but this may have been too much. Not only will
using this interval method of supplementation work toward preventing
imbalances from developing, it will prevent your body from becoming
dependent on getting "easy nutrients."
Another good idea is to not take excessive amounts of nutrients.
Doubling the intake of a nutrient does not mean that you'll get well
twice as fast. There is a limit to your body's ability to take up
and incorporate the nutrient. For example, our bodies need about 2.5-
3 mgs of copper per day. Taking two to three times that amount or 5-
8 mgs per day is reasonable. It is not reasonable to take 15 or more
mgs per day. The same is true for zinc. We need about 15 mgs a day
so supplementing 50 mgs per day for hypos is reasonable. It's not
reasonable to take 100 or more mgs per day.
We can say that nutrients have a physiological range of the quantity
and when that normal range is exceeded, the nutrient is being used as
a drug. When a nutrient is used in large amounts it has different
physiological effects. For example, one mineral might be given in
very large amounts to prevent the absorption of its antagonistic
mineral. This is not using the mineral for nutritional needs, but
using it as a drug to control another function.
When a nutrient is taken in excessive amounts it can have toxic
effects. These effects may be the result of causing other nutrient
deficiencies. Vitamins and minerals generally have different
toxicities in large amounts. Vitamins have a larger range over which
they are non-toxic. Sometimes you can take a vitamin in amounts 100
times the recommended amount without toxic effects. Minerals, on the
other hand, generally have a low ratio of the toxic amount to the
recommended amount. Often this ratio is as low as 6:1. For example,
selenium is often taken in amounts of 200-400 mcgs, but taking 1200
mcgs or more a day can prove toxic.
B COMPLEX VITAMINS
There are also different types of vitamins with different toxicity to
recommended amount ratios. The B vitamins and most vitamins are
water soluble and are readily excreted if taken in excessive
amounts. These vitamins can be taken in larger amounts because of
this safety feature.
Even though there is relative safety in taking large amounts of B
vitamins, I would like to offer this caution. If you look in the
Nutrition Almanac you'll see that most of the B vitamins are needed
in only small amounts. The impact of taking large amounts of these
over a long period of time can be negative.
For example, niacin is recommended to people with heart disease and
high blood pressure and a few years ago, people were taking up to
1200-2000 mgs of niacin per day. While niacin is one of the most
abundant vitamins in the body, taking this much was found to cause
liver damage. Niacin does seem to facilitate copper uptake and it's
possible that prolonged use could lead to an excessive buildup of
copper in the liver (beyond the amount needed for normal health)
which could be damaging. Whether this is the mechanism by which
niacin causes liver damage is something I have not been able to find
out, but this seems possible.
Because people with thyroid disease may also have livers which are
not functioning at 100%, I would recommend not taking excessive
amounts of the B vitamins. Niacin in particular should probably not
be taken in amounts over 300 mgs per day for an extended period.
Taking it with copper to speed up copper uptake for a short duration
is probably fine, but just don't make it a long term practice.
Problems stemming from taking the other B vitamins for a long period
of time are less documented, but probably also exist. Just be
careful and keep your B vitamin intake to a reasonable amount such as
50 mgs of each per day and then take breaks. Use the B vitamins to
help rebuild mineral stores which have become deficient, but don't
continue taking them beyond what is necessary.
OIL SOLUBLE VITAMINS: A, D, E, K
The oil soluble vitamins, A, D, E, and K, however, accumulate in the
body and are stored. These do not need to be taken every day, but if
they are taken in excessive amounts over a long period of time can
accumulate to dangerous levels. Symptoms of toxic amounts of A and D
are headaches. If you take 100,000 units of vitamin A for several
months, this toxic level can be easily reached. It's not necessary
to take high amounts of these vitamins and often less is better.
Pay attention to the amounts of nutrients recommended in the
Supplement Schedule. These are generally safe for most people.
However, you may be different and be more sensitive to these
nutrients.
While I don't believe that it's possible to be allergic to an
essential nutrient, you may experience negative symptoms after taking
one. I use these negative reactions to try to determine what is
deficient. For example, if you take zinc and feel dreadful
afterward, I would suspect that you have a copper deficiency.
Many people are aware that they have sensitivities. Many people with
thyroid disorders also have multiple chemical sensitivities or
sensitivities to essential nutrients. These sensitivities represent
deficiencies of nutrients and as these deficiencies are corrected,
the sensitivities will gradually disappear. However, before these
deficiencies are corrected, you may experience very negative
reactions to taking moderate amounts of nutrients. Use the
information on this site to try to determine what deficiencies you
have and work on them.
If you know that you have sensitivities, be very careful and don't
take any nutrients in the recommended amounts. Cut these amounts
down significantly. Be safe, not sorry. The following supplement
list will be changed from time to time as new information warrants.
I will try to make an announcement in the what's new section if there
is a significant change, but check back to this list occasionally.
Here is the supplement list:
Supplement List
LIST OF NUTRIENTS FOR HYPERTHYROIDISM AND HYPOTHYROIDISM
(Warning: Use this list with caution and get advice from your
physician before using these recommended supplements. The recommended
amounts of these nutrients are for experimental purposes only and the
potential effects of these nutrients on your health are unknown. You
must be responsible for your own health and for knowing the
consequences of taking these recommended supplements. I think these
are reasonable amounts of these nutrients, but I am not a physician
and do not know your health situation. This list is only my best
guess about what might help these diseases. What has helped me or
another person may cause adverse reactions in you. Consult your own
physician.)
GENERAL STRATEGY
I consider hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism (including Graves'
disease and Hashimoto's thyroiditis) as different phases of the same
disease. I'm quite confident that both are caused by nutrient
deficiencies, but hyperthyroidism is the result when the deficiencies
become more severe.
Hypers: Everything that I've experienced myself, seen in others, and
read about in scientific studies indicates that the primary
deficiencies involved in hyperthyroidism are copper and iron. The
balance between copper and zinc seems to be critically important in
determining the rate of thyroid hormone production. Copper slows down
the thyroid while zinc increases thyroid action. Copper should be
supplemented first and if zinc is presently being supplemented it
should be discontinued for two to three weeks or until the thyroid
slows down. Copper absorption and utilization is increased by
molybdenum and the B-complex vitamins, including extra biotin and
PABA. Zinc is essential for health but excess amounts may increase
thyroid hormone production. You will have to experiment to determine
how much zinc you can take. Try to maintain a zinc/copper ratio of
about 3:1 to 5:1 at first.
Most hypers and hypos are deficient in iron. Iron may be low because
of insufficient intake or deficiencies of minerals such as manganese,
copper, or cobalt (vitamin B-12), or B vitamins, which are essential
for iron utilization. Copper and iron work together to form
hemoglobin and need to be supplemented together. Supplementing with
either alone can lead to a deficiency of the other.
Studies show that a deficiency of selenium usually causes a decrease
in the conversion of T4 to T3. However under abnormal conditions, a
deficiency of selenium can cause the body to increase conversion of
T4 to T3 which can lead to higher levels of T3. Selenium is very
important for normal thyroid function. Start by taking 100 micrograms
per day and gradually increase up to 300 micrograms.
All of the supplements listed are necessary either to correct the
underlying causes of hyperthyroidism or to supplement nutrients which
are used up by the hyper metabolism.
HYPOS: Many nutrient deficiencies may cause hypothyroidism. The two
main nutrients which may be deficient are selenium and zinc. Selenium
may become deficient if there are excessive amounts of toxic metals
being ingested, such as mercury from silver amalgam dental fillings.
The more mercury or other toxic metals ingested, the more selenium
you'll need. Start with 200 micrograms of selenium and work up to 400
micrograms. You may need more selenium if you have many amalgam
fillings. The B-complex vitamins, especially B-6, facilitate zinc
metabolism. Also the amino acid L-cysteine is important in zinc
metabolism. Iron, manganese, and chromium are often deficient in
hypos. Some hypos may be so deficient in minerals that they are close
to becoming hyper. If you are experiencing nighttime rapid heart
beat, then you are close and should also supplement with copper.
FOODS
PROTEIN, FAT, AND CARBOHYDRATE
Research studies show that animals fed low protein and/or low fat
diets with adequate calories will become hyperthyroid. Low calorie
diets with proper ratios of protein and fat tend to make animals
hypothyroid. In other words, a diet high in carbohydrates and low in
protein and fats will cause an increased production of thyroid
hormones and a feeling of higher energy levels. However, the
increased energy levels and activity without adequate protein and fat
in the diet will cause the body to cannibalize the body's fat and
protein stores and may lead to hyperthyroidism.
Studies also seem to show that liver disease such as cirrhosis or
hepatitis and pancreatic disease such as pancreatitis interfere with
protein and fat digestion and may therefore lead to hyperthyroidism.
I am studying this to determine how to restore the health of the
liver and pancreas. It appears that a high protein and high fat diet
along with digestive enzymes, PABA, and phosphatidylcholine (along
with the other recommended supplements) may be the best way to heal
the liver and pancreas.
Sam Queen, author of the book, Chronic Mercury Toxicity, told me that
autoimmune diseases, such as Grave's disease, are caused by low
protein intake or inadequate protein digestion. I am looking for
further information on this theory also.
Many foods and supplements which lower blood lipids and which would
be recommended for lowering cholesterol (low density lipoproteins or
LDLs) seem to have an adverse effect on hypers. It's possible that
hypers need to consume more LDLs and avoid all lipid lowering foods
such as garlic. This is contrary to most health advice, but
hyperthyroidism seems to be a condition where the metabolism is
opposite to that found in the majority of people and the opposite
approach is needed.
SPECIFIC FOODS THAT MAY HELP
HYPERS: Radish, especially daikon; horseradish; carrots and carrot
juice; cruciferous vegetables.
SPECIFIC FOODS AND SUPPLEMENTS WHICH MAY HURT
HYPERS: Any lipid (fat) lowering food or supplement, such as: garlic;
ginseng; octacosanol; or other body-building supplements which are
commonly used to lose fat.
TOXIC HEAVY METALS
There is a possibility that toxic heavy metals play a causative role
in thyroid disease. Several of the group members who have had hair
analyses done have high levels of mercury, aluminum, and other metals
and also low sodium/potassium (Na/K) ratio. It appears that toxic
metals may disrupt the Na/K ratio and thereby interfere with cellular
absorption of essential nutrients. This hypothesis is also under
investigation.
Sam Queen states that toxic metals are excreted from the body along
with bile which is produced in the liver. Sufficient dietary fat is
essential for bile production. He states that dairy fat works better
than fat found in meat and recommends the consumption of 2-4 ounces
of butter a day. I think that 4-6 ounces of high fat cheese such as
cheddar would be equivalent.
SUNSHINE
I found that sunshine seemed to help me and other people may have had
similar experiences. During my recovery (after I started taking
copper), whenever I would spend some time in the sun I would feel
better the next day. Recently I've read about a hormone called
soltriol which is produced in the skin under the influence of
sunshine. One researcher states that it affects many hormone-
producing tissues, including the thyroid. We know that the sun helps
the skin produce vitamin D, which is really a hormone rather than a
vitamin. Soltriol is a second, separate hormone produced by the sun
and I intend to research this to see how it is involved in thyroid
problems.
We know that copper is used by the body to produce melanin, which is
the dark pigment which colors the skin and protects against sun
damage. PABA seems to be involved in this metabolism and this is the
reason that many sunscreens contain PABA. My present theory is that
sunshine on a person who is deficient in copper and/or PABA will
result in an increase in those deficiencies and therefore may become
more likely to get hyperT. However, sunshine on a person who is
getting an adequate amount of copper and PABA may be very beneficial
in helping the person recover from hyperT. This is just my theory,
but if this is true then we could expect that persons who become more
sensitive to the sun and who burn more easily may be copper deficient
and therefore likely to develop hyperT.
LIST OF SUPPLEMENTS
Thyroid conditions, especially hyperthyroidism, are characterized by
serious nutritional deficiencies. The following list of supplements
helped me and others to recover from hyperthyroidism and
hypothyroidism and are important to correct the nutritional
deficiencies which seem to cause these thyroid conditions. All of
these nutrients have been shown to be essential for human life. While
hypos may do well by selecting a good multiple vitamin/mineral
supplement and adding to it as necessary, hypers have found it
necessary to obtain these supplements singly so that the ratios can
be changed as needed and so that certain minerals like manganese and
iodine can be avoided until the body can once again tolerate these.
This list is not intended as a "buffet" from which you can pick and
choose. I consider each nutrient listed here important and possibly
necessary for improving the thyroid diseases.
MINERALS
BORON
(Increases estrogen which suppresses thyroid function.)
HYPERS: 3-6 mg per day.
HYPOS: Probably don't need extra, unless estrogen is low. Usually
hypos have high estrogen and low progesterone and testosterone.
CALCIUM and MAGNESIUM
(Regulates heart rate and builds bone.)
HYPERS: Take with magnesium, 1:1 ratio to suppress "thyroid storms.
HyperT interferes with calcium metabolism and promotes osteoporosis,
so take at least 1000 mg each of calcium and magnesium.
HYPOS: Take cal/mag in a 2:1 ratio, as needed, perhaps 600/300 mg.
CHROMIUM
(Involved in glucose metabolism and insulin production. The
conversion of T4 to T3 is influenced by insulin, which is probably
the reason why diabetics have low thyroid function.)
HYPERS: 200 mcg per day.
HYPOS: 400 mcg per day.
COPPER
(Copper seems to be the most important mineral for hypers to take.
Copper deficiency has been shown to cause elevated levels of thyroid
hormones. It is also essential for monoamine oxidase production which
degrades hormones after they have fulfilled their function. Take on
full stomach, since it may produce nausea at first.)
HYPERS: 6-10 mg per day. Copper is the most important mineral for
hyperT, so take copper first.
HYPOS: 0-3 mg per day. Hypos may have excess copper which is
suppressing the thyroid.
IODINE
(Kelp) (Most essential mineral for thyroid hormone production--
deficiency of iodine and/or selenium causes goiter, a swelling of the
thyroid gland. A goiter is the body's attempt to increase the
production of thyroid hormones from an inadequate supply of
nutrients. Replenishing those nutrients will enable the body to
resorb the goitrous tissue and allow the thyroid to return to its
normal size.)
HYPERS: Don't take iodine or kelp until copper is built up. In cases
of goiter, supplementing with iodine with insufficient selenium will
make the goiter worse. Once copper has been supplemented for awhile,
test with one kelp tablet. If hyper symptoms are not increased,
gradually increase the kelp up to 6 tablets per day.
HYPOS: Start with one table per day and build up slowly to 6 tablets
per day.
IRON
(Iron is a critical mineral, because while it is very necessary and
often low in thyroid disease, iron intake without a corresponding
intake of copper can deplete copper. Iron works with copper to build
hemoglobin, so therefore too much of either can deplete the other.
Usually in hyperthyroidism, copper is deficient and has to be built
up first. Once it is replenished, iron supplementation with the
copper (probably in a ratio of no more than 5:1, iron:copper) will
then help both minerals get built up. If hyper symptoms increase,
stop or reduce the iron.) In hypothyroidism, iron is probably more
deficient than copper and so should be supplemented first. Once iron
is built up then a small amount (2-3 mg) of copper can be added. Iron
increases body temperature by increasing norepinephrine and
increasing cellular oxygen, which helps the low body temperature
problem in hypothyroidism. Iron is known as the strength mineral.)
HYPERS: After copper has been supplemented for a few days, try a
small amount of iron. Gradually increase to about 18 mg.
HYPOS: Take 18-36 mg per day.
LITHIUM
(Lithium, sodium, and potassium are important components in the
cellular pumps that transport minerals and amino acids across cell
membranes. A deficiency of lithium may cause the mineral and amino
acid deficiencies we see in hyperthyroidism. Studies have indicated
that manic-depression may develop from a lithium deficiency
(hyperthyroidism is associated with manic-depression) and some
psychiatric patients get hyperthyroidism when lithium treatment is
abruptly ended. Limiting sodium and potassium intake for hypers seems
important in helping correct the imbalance that may be the result of
a lithium deficiency. It also appears that hypos may need more sodium
and potassium and perhaps less lithium. As of 7-3-99 I am studying
lithium and its relationship to sodium and potassium and hope to be
able to add more information to this soon. Lithium is available as a
supplement called lithium orotate from www.vitaminshoppe.com in a 120
mg dosage. Most nutrition books including the Nutrition Almanac do
not even mention lithium, so I've been unable to find any information
on a reasonable amount for supplementation.. Because hyperT is
associated with an abrupt termination of lithium supplementation, be
careful.)
HYPERS: Lithium orotate 120 mg. My best guess is to take one or two a
day. (I am presently trying to determine what the proper dosage. I've
taken up to four a day without any immediate noticeable effects.) It
may be beneficial to limit sodium and potassium intake until lithium
is replenished.
HYPOS: Avoid. Ensure adequate intake of sodium and potassium.
MAGNESIUM
(Essential for thyroid function and appears deficient in both hypos
and hypers.)
(See instructions under calcium.)
MANGANESE
(Assists iron metabolism and plays a role in the production of
thyroid hormone. The hair analyses of both hypers and hypos show that
most are deficient in manganese and chromium. These two minerals work
together. Manganese should not be taken by hypers without also taking
copper and iron. I believe that manganese and chromium should be
taken together and too much of one or the other may disrupt the
balance between the two. It's possible that once copper is built up,
the body will tolerate more manganese and chromium and these two
minerals are probably essential for complete recovery from thyroid
disease.)
HYPERS: 5-10 mg per day. Make sure copper and iron are supplemented
before manganese is started. If hyper symptoms are experienced,
suspect manganese or zinc.
HYPOS: Take 10-20 mg per day.
MOLYBDENUM
(Assists copper utilization. Deficiency symptoms are similar to hyper
symptoms.)
HYPERS: Take 250-500 mcg per day.
HYPOS: Unknown
POTASSIUM
(Increases cellular response to T3.)
HYPERS: Unknown
HYPOS: Eat high potassium foods like bananas and potatoes.
SELENIUM
(The essential mineral component of 5'-deiodinase enzymes which
convert the prohormone T4 to the cellular active hormone T3.
Deficiency of selenium will cause "low T3 Syndrome" where T4 levels
are normal but T3 is low. Selenium and/or iodine deficiencies cause
goiter. Selenium is the most important mineral to counter the toxic
effects of heavy metals. Selenium is essential for production of
glutathione peroxidase which is one of the three most important
antioxidant defenses of the body. Can be toxic at levels of over 1000
mcg per day. Goiter will result from a selenium deficiency (or iodine
deficiency), and many hypers and hypos have goiter.)
HYPERS: Take 200-600 mcg per day. If you have a known high level of
mercury or other toxic metal, consider taking more. Start at 100 mcg
and work up slowly.
HYPOS: Take 200-600 mcg of selenium per day. Mercury in silver
amalgam fillings uses up selenium for detoxification. High amounts of
amalgam fillings may require more selenium. Don't take over 600 mcg.
SILICON
(Supplement known as silica, from the plant horsetail. Assists
collagen formation and seems to have thyroid function. Helps to
antagonize aluminum which may cause copper excretion and
hyperthyroidism.)
HYPERS: Take 2 per day. One information source recommends taking
rests from this supplement, like 3 days on, then 2 days off. I've
used it every day for about a year with no negative symptoms.
HYPOS: Same as Hypers.
SILVER
(Next to nothing is known about silver and the thyroid, but my guess
is that there is some connection. Silver is just below copper in the
Periodic Table and therefore has similar chemical properties. Copper
and zinc have electrical properties and can be used to make a
battery. Silver has similar but better electrical conductivity
properties than copper, so there is the possibility that it is
important for the same reasons copper is.
However, there is information that leads me to suspect that silver
may be very important in controlling TED (thyroid eye disease.) As
you will see in the cadmium file and the TED file, I suspect that
cadmium (high in tobacco) is one of the prime causes of TED. Cadmium
is just to the right of silver in the Periodic Table and probably an
excess of cadmium will interfere with silver absorption. Silver has
been shown in studies to inhibit fibroblast proliferation and this is
the mechanism by which TED develops. See Silver.
I took colloidal silver during my recovery from hyperthyroidism, but
have been unable to ascertain if it was important in the healing
process or not. I can at least say that it didn't hurt. I did not
develop TED. My suggestion is to take 5 drops of colloidal silver per
day or follow the directions on the bottle whether you are hyper or
hypo.)
HYPERS: 5 Drops of Colloidal silver per day.
HYPOS: Same.
SULFUR
(Supplement known at MSM--methylsulfanylmethane. Works with copper in
many functions and may get depleted with copper supplementation.
Deficiency causes aches in joints and muscles.)
HYPERS: After copper and iron are built up, start MSM (or when joints
get sore.) Common supplement amounts are 1000-3000 mg.
HYPOS: Take 1000-3000 mg.
TRACE ELEMENTS
(Contains small amounts of all minerals. May be important in
supplying unknown necessary trace elements. Ionized form best,
colloidal form second best. Trace elements can also be obtained from
seafoods.)
HYPERS: Supplement with recommended amount unless the iodine,
manganese, or zinc content increase hyper symptoms. If so, take
sporadically. If you can't tolerate this at all, take copper and
molybdenum until copper is built up and then re-try.
HYPOS: Take recommended amount.
VANADIUM
(I am still researching this, but vanadium seems to be involved in
thyroid function. High vanadium levels have been found in the hair of
manic/depressives. This means it may be a thyroid stimulant.
Available as a supplement, vanadyl sulfate.)
HYPERS: Avoid. I am pretty sure hypers should never take vanadium.
Whenever I've used it I've had increased hyper symptoms.
HYPOS: Unknown. There are reports that a vanadium deficiency is a
part of diabetes and since many hypothyroids have either diabetes or
hypoglycemia, it's possible that hypos are deficient. From my
experience I feel vanadium stimulates the thyroid, but I would be
very careful with this until more is known.
ZINC
(Works with copper, but also may increase thyroid function. This
mechanism is unknown, but zinc may spare selenium because it also
detoxifies heavy metals. May increase progesterone production, which
stimulates thyroid hormone production. The optimum zinc to copper
ratio is about 8:1, but hypers need a lower ratio and hypos a higher
ratio. Take on full stomach since it may cause nausea. Take in
morning as it may keep you awake if taken at night.)
HYPERS: After copper and iron are built up some, try a small amount
of zinc. If tolerated take one to five milligrams of zinc per
milligram of copper. If hyper symptoms increase, suspect zinc and
reduce amount taken. Premenopausal women may find it better to
supplement zinc during the first half of the month and use less or no
zinc during the second half.
HYPOS: Take 30-100 mg of zinc to increase thyroid production. If
rapid heart beat is felt at night or early morning, decrease zinc.
VITAMINS
A and D
(From fish oil. Usual capsules contain 10,000 IU of A and 400 IU of
D. There is some evidence indicating that excessive amounts of
vitamin D, possibly only the synthetic form added to foods, may be a
problem. A study on rats showed that vitamin A deficiency causes
hypothyroidism. Hypos have difficulty converting beta carotene to
vitamin A, so supplement with a preformed vitamin A, such as from
fish oil.)
HYPERS: Take 1-3 capsule per day. Get adequate amounts of sunshine.
Several hypers have reported benefits from carrot juice. Hypers have
an increased rate of conversion of beta carotene to vitamin A.
HYPOS: 1-3 capsules per day.
B-COMPLEX
(Vitamins usually included in B-complex will be listed separately.
Some people may have to take individual B vitamins, while most may
have to supplement extra B vitamins to the B-complex. It appears that
the best way to get the B vitamins is to take a B-complex supplement
(50 mg) with extra biotin (up to 1000 mcg) and extra PABA (up to 500
mg).<BR
HYPERS: Take one or two 50 mg B-complex per day.
HYPOS: Same as Hypers.
B-1 (Thiamine. Believed essential for copper and sulfur metabolism.
Also appears important for correcting eye involvement in Grave's.<